You've probably heard this once or twice before, but we've been freelancing at Fleshbot—one of the fine, Gawker online publications—for about a month. Granted, it's not our usual genre, but since our background is news we approach writing about sex in the same manner as we would a news report: Creative, flexible, meet deadlines and thoroughly investigate leads. So when researching a post last week, we came across photos and video of a porn star (well, they're all stars, right?) that we personally knew from the city. "Jason" immediately stood out for two reasons. The first, he's a stunning man to behold. The second: He's marketed exclusively as a "top" by NYC-based blatino videos and layouts ...
But has "bottomed" several times in all-white productions, sometimes under a different name. Look here or here. (NSFW)
Is there an unspoken taboo against black men as passive partners in sexual relations with whites ... and are we mistakenly holding porn to that litmus test?
Certainly the perceptions of masculinity and sex-roles are much stronger among black and Latin gay men than their white counterparts. The machismo culture is firmly entrenched across Latin America and the Mediterranean ... from the traditional, patriarchal family unit to the long-standing practice of "strong-man", authoritarian, non-democratic leadership, which only now is beginning to change.
The trappings of masculinity are also highly valued within the black community. Many heterosexuals consider homosexuality a threat; anecdotal and statistical evidence show that this may be even more common within our community. Minorities tend to internalize the stigma practiced upon them—for instance, the African-American or Latin fascination with light skin and "good " hair, or calling each other the N-word—so the evolutionary trend among black gay/sgl men has been to gravitate toward hyper-masculinity. Keith Boykin in the current edition of Vibe Online:
Since the 90’s I’ve seen a lot more black men who are gay or bi-sexual who identify with hip hop variations of masculinity. It affects the way we see ourselves, and we’ve constructed narrow definitions of masculinity, which are fine for people who fit into it but not for people who don’t fit into it.
Those "narrow definitions" are most vividly expressed in perceived sex roles; from the historic fascination with the black "Mandingo" to our own history of oppression, black gay/sgl culture attaches an extreme premium to the active, "top" role because of its perceived connection to power. Within our community, attitudes appear to shift on inter-racial relationships and sex—specifically, with whites. But the unspoken agreement is that black men will assert the active role; black men who "bottom" for white men are frowned upon and are awarded a less prestigious role on the social ladder.
A few weeks ago, we were bar-hopping and clubbing with several friends. Here's the scene: First, take another look at us. Okay, we're at Crobar (not as fun as the Chicago or Miami versions, but still a hot party), it's prime time—seven or eight am—and we're loving the moment. Punking out to Victor Calderone, drenched, shirtless and wearing camouflage pants and combat boots. That's about it. (Hey, we gotta use it 'fore we lose it.) Someone feels on our back and rubs against our butt. No biggie, right? We're only partying with a few thousand other shirtless men. But it happens again, this time more direct. Turn around and there's an older, dark-haired, circuit-type with blonde highlights and green eyes, day glo stick and pastel Izod polo shirt. "I want to give you a compliment," he said. "Every time I see a big, tall muscular black man ... " Okay, we knew what was coming next. Here it was: "I just want to bend you over and ..."
STOP. REWIND. Say what? True, it was just a club and just a comment—and who knows which alphabet cocktail (E, G, X, etc) he was enjoying that evening. But we were offended by the remark, frowned and proceeded to salvage what remained of our alleged masculinity by immediately shooting game to the go-go gods.
What exactly did he say that was so offensive? In all honesty, it's nothing that we haven't said—admittedly, a brotha has a little mo' game than that—but what was the insult? The fact that what he wanted was not within the realm of sexual possibilities? Would it have been more acceptable if he were black? Was it the weak intro? Or did the blonde highlights, polo and Izod shirt destroy any concept of how a "top" should market himself?
Probably all of those factors—especially the highlights and glo stick—contributed to the disgust. But the bottom line is, our social contract dictates that there are certain roles black men will or should perform behind closed doors when in an inter-racial relationship. Several of my friends have white BFs or will date white men; each vehemently says that they will never bottom. "I can't do that," Allen, a postal worker, insists. "That's too much like slavery." Demar, an HIV counselor, agrees and adopts a quasi-Marxist concept toward bedroom politics: "There's a history of rape and colonialism. I'd feel like they're raping my body just like their imperialism raped Africa."
If you're laughing at Demar's pseudo-intellectualization of bedroom politics, good; because we shouldn't be doing the same to pornography, which obviously is staged and there is a profit motive.
Let's be honest: the broad sexual spectrum should suggest that there are men willing to experiment within a wide realm of possibilities. Pornography reflects culture, so the fewer gay inter-racial titles usually show black men in the more active role. But some studios (and actors) have made a niche for themselves doing just the opposite. Certainly they're fulfilling a demand and doing no more than what goes on behind close doors. Let's be realistic: There's no point in holding pornography to a higher standard than much other creative media. Pure and simple, it's fantasy and the consumers want that.
But fantasies derive from reality and the consumer base will bring its own bias. Black, gay audiences appear unwilling to accept versatile porn stars who consistently bottom for whites. Top name, white straight porn stars (female) routinely do not have on-screen sex with black men; the thought is, they will lose their caché. It's pretty much the same with gay porn; the top San Fernando valley studios are reluctant to integrate casts. When they do, the black actors rarely are paired with big stars or make comparable money. "If I were white, I could make another thousand pr scene, easily," Ty Lattimore said in his February interview at our old blog, Brotha2Brotha.
Before you jump to comments and say, "Well, what about Matthew Rush?", he's the big exception. Greg .. err, Matthew ... may be part-black, but with his skin color, eyes and hair, he's able to pass; the studios don't market him as black so his on-screen identity is not black, per se. Within that context, Jason's strategy makes perfect economic sense: Make as much as you can marketing yourself to black audiences and create another, versatile persona with the white studios which have deeper pockets. The other day we once again caught up with Ty and asked him about Jason and other black porn stars who bottom on-screen for whites:
Some porn stars happen to be bottoms and some black guys are into white men. Some are doing it to be paid. More power to them.
"Power" is certainly a great choice of words. One could even argue that strippers and porn actors are the ultimate power-wielders in the sexual arena. After all, they're brazenly doing what many of us wished that we could ... and we're paying for the privilege to watch our fantasies realized via proxy. "What pornography is really about, ultimately, isn't sex but death," said one of our nation's greatest essayist, the late and brilliant Susan Sontag. How true; you're temporarily killing your own inhibitions and living vicariously through another.









all of what you said is right. sexual roles (top, bottom) are
linked to masculinity, i.e. a man who bottom has to be sexually weak
and a top is sexually aggressive and in charge. Which might be true...
But, I also tend to think that sexuality or what you prefer is so much more fluid and complicated like that. Which is why I think men who are versatile (i.e. are perfectly okay with fucking someone or being fucked) are probably a strong symbol of sexual freedom in a sense.
I'm versatile, and I really don't care if I'm fucking someone or being fucked...I truly do enjoy the sexual gratification I get when I have an orgasm plain and simple..When I'm having sex, I'm only thinking about the end result...cumming or getting facial..or three. :)
I do get why there is this sense of rigidity with "top" and "bottom". But, all that is thrown out of the window when you deal with what individuals want and need and how you really shouldn't always go by physicality (i.e. that massive brotha or guy with the big ass guns and the clearly big dick imprint in his jeans may turn out to be a very aggressive and masculine...BOTTOM.
Lord knows my head was blown
when I would meet someone, who I was clearly hoping would lay some
pipe and fuck me unconscious, wanted me to fuck him senseless. Of
course, Im versatile..so we BOTH got what we want...hehehehe)
And, the whole thing with black men dating white men and how it smacks of rape and colonialism. It does, but why isn't there any discussion about how the simple fact of dating someone white can be construed as "rape and slavery". I mean, your friends say they won't let a white guy fuck them int he ass...but, they do know that their relationship is being seen as a form of "slavery" and "self hate", no?
Instead of talking about rape and colonialism, why not discuss how
interracial relationships are often difficult to maintain because one or both parties haven't worked out their racism and have brought that
baggage to the bedroom...I think that's a more stronger topic to talk about. I know, for me, I do have that discussion or intend to if I date someone who is white.
But, I still think versatility is the best route to go. :)
Posted by: ryan | 22 July 2005 at 16:16
how can u all say he considered a sellout when in fact black men and white men have ben screwing 4 years ..also today people act as if its ok 4 black people 2 have sex with white people which i think is nasty but u all ahve made ur bed now lay in it!!! stop complaining about what coler gets the dick..
Posted by: ameil | 22 July 2005 at 19:30
hmmm, i'll be very curious to see where all these comments go topics-wise.
thanks Rod for a thoughtful, enriched piece.
later
Posted by: demetrius | 22 July 2005 at 23:32
I have been in a same sex interracial relationship going on 7 years. When it comes right down to it I know it is our similar socioeconomic backgrounds and easy going personalities that make it work! We are both stable, employed, professional and don’t self medicate. Every once an a while someone will try to sweat us about our perceived differences. Our families and friends support us, our love and dedication to each other is what is most important. A few strangers with agendas really have no affect on us and shouldn’t. From my own personal experience I wouldn’t really and am not interested of anyone who share the hue of my skin color, too damn boring.
Posted by: merk68 | 22 July 2005 at 23:45
i definitely agree with this article. it's damn near bout time someone finally came to the realization and laid everything on the table. thx for an interesting read man =)
Posted by: mike | 23 July 2005 at 01:00
I don't think it’s a top or bottom issue, it’s an issues of self-hatred. Its seems to me that there is a segment of brothas who expect other black men to be 15s on a scale of 10 to get their attention. You will hear them whine about there aren't any good black, intelligent, educated, men out there so they will date a white guy who works at block buster and has four roomates. I know you are saying what the flock? But it’s very true; I have seen this happen over and over again. I have asked a few of these brothas, why do you expect so much out of black men and so little out of who you date. They give this lame answer about we ‘just fell in love.’ so it would seem that a successful educated black man, is the equivalent of an average white man. I think this brotha feels as though the average black man isn't worthy of his ass or that he's getting over on poor black scrubs when he fucks them. You see other porn stars such as Bam and Bobby Blake kissing hugging and sucking white stars but in black videos, they are just there to bang call the actors bitches and hoes and go home. I spoke with a retired porn guy years ago and he told me, that in black porn tops are in demand and in white porn dominant muscled tops and muscled bottoms are in demand. So apparently homeboy isn't as masculine to make it as top in white porn and need to give up the ass.
Posted by: naturalblkluv | 23 July 2005 at 03:15
Well I'm a bottom, I don't know why I just can't top anyone. I have a stereotyped sexuality, I like macho guys, black guys, I'm 100% botton but why should we care if it matters if you're top or bottom. I mean it's just « useful » to know if you're sexuality compatible with someone, it's no self-hatred issue but just how to describe your sexuality to find the best match you can. I don't care if people call me slut ou bitch because I'm a bottom and like agressive guys. Sometimes I like it though :-) But it's for the sex fun !
Posted by: .rod. | 23 July 2005 at 06:23
As a white man who is attracted to all races and ethnicities (including my own), it's mere romantic connection that brought me together with my African-American partner of 13 years. Our sexual life began as very top/bottom, but has changed over the years to an ever-changing versatility on both our parts.
Does this mean that race isn't important in our relationship, or that it doesn't affect our sex? I'd like to hope it doesn't...I love him (and am attracted to him) for who he is.
But I'm not foolish enough to say that our skin colors aren't a part of us. What I will say is that race has never been a factor in our sex life, and it's repugnant to me to go there. Just as I've always thought it was ridiculous for people to be only attracted to one race, it seems equally ridiculous to bring prejudice into the bedroom. We may not be able to escape our history, but we don't have to give it power.
Posted by: ModFab | 23 July 2005 at 10:13
I am a versatile asian guy and I've dated a few blk guys. Even the ones who are versatile usually just want to top me. I am not feminine (and quite muscular actually) but it seems I am deemed not masculine enuf for them and only wants me to bottom. Talk about stereo types we asian men got it the worst.
Posted by: dan | 23 July 2005 at 22:32
I don't get this whole top and bottom crap. Who cares... Slavery and colonialism? What? I think there is just a bit of too much thinking here.
Frankly, I never understood the whole pride associated with being a top. The gay world sometimes seems so plastic.
If it feels good and its safe, why not go for it. Why must we always toss in "power" or "race"?
Yeah, both are part of life. Sometimes, sex is just sex. Move on.
That said, gay porn is just as racist as Hollywood. Maybe even mores so. MTV has more interracial love going on than most porn, which is usually segregated and stereotypic, not to mention boring. Suck and fuck. No passion. Boring.
This reminds me of a poke at casting I saw on Stargate the other night: An alien human woman Varla meets two of the male leads, Daniel Jackson and Cameron Mitchell. She looks at them and says "Not much genetic variation around here." The joke is that both guys are white, blue-eyed with light brown/blonde hair.
Posted by: bluebob | 25 July 2005 at 10:02
I know the boy first hand and his real name so film names are always different, and he is more bottom than top to be sure. But "J" is all about making the money (films, photo shoots etc) so what ever pays . . goes. Personally he is a great guy, sexy and intense in every way . . .
Posted by: Antonio | 25 July 2005 at 12:18
Does it matter? When it comes down to it, its the green of the buck and the size of the wad. No pun intended. All he wants is the check and if they offered him enough, I'm sure he'd do more than bottom. . .
Posted by: Jarren | 26 July 2005 at 08:10
I think this top, bottom, black, white thing has more to do with the gay marketplace of desire. I got that from Dwight A. McBride. He has a very interesting essay on this very subject in the book "Why I hate Abercrombie & Fitch" Essay number 3 "It's a White Mans World"
Posted by: Zac | 26 July 2005 at 15:46
This article was great. The topic of sexuality and pornography and the cyclical effect is one that is not discussed as it should be. I hope the soon-to-be-released book HUNG addresses the topic in the manner it deserves. I think with SGL/MSM men pornography has a huge impact - think about it, often it is the most accessible form of media exposure Black male homosexuality available. I think the lack of intimacy vs. promescuity is connected to this.
Posted by: Audacity | 28 July 2005 at 16:23