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24 March 2008

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Me

I'm trying to figure out when baseball caps, doo rags and bubble jackets became the only way to be black and gay. I'm not "hood" and never have been. It amazes me how one-dimensional black gay culture is. It's tired and annoying. All this homothug posturing, and they turn their assholes up in the air quicker than any queen I know.

Still, these ads are a good thing, I guess. It won't do a damn bit of good but they get an A for effort. Our community has gotten beyond careless when it comes to sexual health and I don't see it changing, especially since most black men have an extreme aversion to monogamy. If watching our friends waste away and die has done nothing, these won't either.

I guess I'm a jaded queen, but it is what it is.

Darian

"Still, these ads are a good thing, I guess. It won't do a damn bit of good but they get an A for effort. Our community has gotten beyond careless when it comes to sexual health and I don't see it changing, especially since most black men have an extreme aversion to monogamy. If watching our friends waste away and die has done nothing, these won't either."

You guess you're a jaded queen? If I had to judge based on the negative comment you posted I would have to say yes.

I agree that we are not as one-dimensional as the "hood" image that is being portrayed in the ads. But they are clearly targeting a specific age group, many of whom dress exactly like the men shown in the ads.

I'm not sure where you've been the last few years, but hip-hop culture invaded the gay community a long time ago. Straight brothers are not the only ones wearing fitted caps and baggy pants.

I'm not even going to address your ridiculous comment on black men and monogamy. Let me guess you're single, right?

Thanks for the shout out Rod. My last name is Aaron not Anderson btw...lol

Darian

"Still, these ads are a good thing, I guess. It won't do a damn bit of good but they get an A for effort. Our community has gotten beyond careless when it comes to sexual health and I don't see it changing, especially since most black men have an extreme aversion to monogamy. If watching our friends waste away and die has done nothing, these won't either."

You guess you're a jaded queen? If I had to judge based on the negative comment you posted I would have to say yes.

I agree that we are not as one-dimensional as the "hood" image that is being portrayed in the ads. But they are clearly targeting a specific age group, many of whom dress exactly like the men shown in the ads.

I'm not sure where you've been the last few years, but hip-hop culture invaded the gay community a long time ago. Straight brothers are not the only ones wearing fitted caps and baggy pants.

I'm not even going to address your ridiculous comment on black men and monogamy. Let me guess you're single, right?

Thanks for the shout out Rod. My last name is Aaron not Anderson btw...lol

Wall Street

Me, you raise an interesting point. Certainly not all black gay men are one-dimensional thugged out caricatures in bubble jackets. That's actually one reason that I enjoy this blog, it shows the diversity of black men across the world.

But, as Darian says, the campaign is "clearly targeting a specific age group, many of whom dress exactly like the men shown in the ads." That's how you reach your desired demographic. Plus, we're having a conversation, and that is what is important.

Rod Mc

Sorry about that, Darian, this post was written at 2am. The post is corrected.

Me

Call it ridiculous if you'd like, but it's the truth. Anybody living in a major city (especially in DC where 1 in 4 people are carrying the virus) knows that these fools have no desire to settle down ... at all. But there's no point in engaging. In the land of make believe called the black gay blogosphere everything's peachy, I forgot. Give me a fucking break.

That's why Rod's blog is the only one I bother reading.

Dluv

"Me": the ad is targeting at the hip-hop "homo-thug" audience because they are the ones that need the most convincing and engage in the riskiest behavior.

Me

Dluv ... My point though is that they are not the ONLY ones who need convincing. I live in DC and trust and believe, I've met more positive people since I moved here than I have known all my life (I'm almost 29), and NONE of them fit this demographic. NONE. Not even the young dudes I know. Some are white collar unclockable types, some are teachers, others are outright femme queens who got caught up in some bullshit just being young and dumb like we've all been at some point. And they didn't get infected by homothug types either. They gambled on risky behavior and lost. All I'm saying is the community as a whole has problems and I'm tired of gay black men - and black men period for that matter - being boiled down to Timberland boot wearing cartoons. The imagery goes back to black gay men being more comfortable with the idea that these "masculine' types are more acceptable to the straights who'll walk by these ads. Not so. The butch brothers have fooled themselves into thinking they're in a different class and they aren't. A fag's a fag to a straight.

Wall Street's correct though, if nothing else it gets folks talking.

Kwame

Okay, let's place nice now, boys. No name calling! We're all discussing this, so it's a good thing. BTW, I enjoy your blog Darian, I discovered it from this site a few weeks ago!

Guess Who

I saw this ad last week in Washington Heights on w169th and Broadway. It DEFINITELY made me do a double take!

Derrick from Philly

Damn, ME, you sound like me. The difference is I'm fifty, so what is "popular" among young black homosexual men doesn't really affect me. Notice, I used the term "homosexual"--we have so many young black men who love other men but do not want to be associated with "gay" (they think it belongs to the white boys--which is ludicrus). Still, I think it's part of what ME is writing about: the need to emulate the thug image in the straight black world. But, hey, part straight guys emulate that image too, so it just must be popular among the young heads. Don't do a damn thing for me. I wish they'd all be like Omarion and pull up their pants. 'Course most of them won't fill their pants out like Omarion, but atleast they'll look like they know what soap & water is...toothpaste is pipe dream. Am I being hard on the young folks? What older generation hasn't been critical of those that follow them. But any ad campaign that might help in the fight against the virus should be tried. These young guys better worry about staying alive first, then think of some fancy name to call yourself.

Derrick from Philly

I meant "ludicrous", and "young white straight guys emulate the inner city thug image also..."

Sorry, my administrator came into my office to ask a question, so I couldn't proof read. The nerve of him-- comin' in here asking me about work when I'm on the blogs. Inconsiderate little so'n'so...

TheRevKev

GREAT WORK ROD!

Lang B.

I feel the ads will be affective. Unfortunately, this uis "the look" of the guys you see in the club. Hopefully seing a reflection of themselves in the ad might encourage them to really love them selves and play safer.

Hope it does not re-charge the down low hysteria again and scare the ladies as they walk by.

Blah

Derrick, I swear we need to come up with some type of way to get you and Omarion together lol I understand that these ads don't target everyone (most of the time the producers of ads are not looking to attract everyone, namely because they can't). The ads are there to target a specific sub-group within a sub-group. Rod posted the numbers on his comment. This is a group that needs to be targeted, so that hopefully they can grow up one day and be 50 and pull their pants up. I think it is a positive step to put these ads out there and make younger people more aware of their actions. I find some of the pessimism to be really sad and disheartening. To say that they wont make a difference says more about your character than the ads we are supposed to be discussing.

Ariel

"Our community has gotten beyond careless when it comes to sexual health and I don't see it changing, especially since most black men have an extreme aversion to monogamy."

Accept it, and don't date them. Try to lose the bitterness, because it just shows your continued disappointment. At a certain point you must accept it an move on. Your not a queen just disappointed about a vision of love that never existed.

STANLEY REID

A RECENT ARTICLE THAT SAYS , many young black men are loving one another . into a '' homosexual '' life style . this is not to say , that it meant a partening with a '' same '' equalling . it must be saying - men are getting with men for the single reason of sexuality and having sex with the other . this is a risky business [ work, doing ] i am concerned about all kinds of mishaps for relationshi
ps for better men and women in society . FRIENDS are a jewel . but life to live longer is better. a most recent person the mytwocents says - about the people for living that so much is going on in the african communnity and blacks affiliate d, but i feel God is going to a nation think about the healing all people should have . not death .

Willdevo77

I’m not sure how I came to this site but I’m glad I did. The image being discussed is in fact myself and my boyfriend, im the one with the fitted baseball cap…Mr. Jaded your totally missing the point of the campaign, the image is so suppose reflect two brother’s showing love for each other at the same time being safe when it comes to sex…I was not wearing a doo rag, im not a thug, im not hood and the bubble jacket, my brother it was cold, but what if I was all these things? It will still reflect a positive message …you where to busy focusing on what we had on then you were the message! If you cant relate to the message then don’t worry about it, please look pass the the fashion and focus more on the importance…im glad I did this campaign and I would do it again!

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