Breaking news from California on Proposition 8. The Yes on 8 campaign petitions the California Supreme Court to "nullify" the marriages of the estimated 18,000 gay and lesbian couples who legally married before voters approved the referendum that outlawed gay unions. The Sacramento Bee reports:
The campaign filed a brief arguing that because the new law holds that only marriages between a man and a woman are recognized or valid in California, the state can no longer recognize the existing same-sex unions.
"Proposition 8's brevity is matched by its clarity. There are no conditional clauses, exceptions, exemptions or exclusions," reads the brief co-written by Pepperdine University law school dean Kenneth Starr, the former independent counsel who investigated President Bill Clinton.
The campaign submitted the document in response to three lawsuits seeking to invalidate Proposition 8, a constitutional amendment adopted last month that overruled the court's decision in May that briefly legalized gay marriage in the nation's most populous state.
Attorney General Jerry Brown also filed his brief with the California Supreme Court today. Brown argues Proposition 8 should be invalidated. Brown changed his position as he previously stated "he would fight to uphold the initiative in his role as attorney general, even though he personally voted against it."
This would be the first time in history the state has been asked to forcibly divorce couples who were legally married. Doesn't sound very Christian, imho. The only silver lining here is that sex-obsessed Ken Starr is the lead counsel on this motion. Hopefully his losing streak will continue.
Thanks KAREN OCAMB and MAD PROFESSAH
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I knew this was coming! I am not at all surprised! I hope they don't succeed, because that would be a miscarriage of justice!
Posted by: Isis | 19 December 2008 at 20:29
hi, i hope this does not succeed, my uncle married his longtime lover and they are devastated, thanks
Posted by: Jamey | 19 December 2008 at 20:34
it won't happen. things will work out for the best. we will all be able to marry the person we desire.
Posted by: FREELEO | 19 December 2008 at 20:46
Oh lord, here comes World War 3......
Posted by: Fred | 19 December 2008 at 21:33
Thank GOD for Jerry Brown!
Posted by: Duwayne | 20 December 2008 at 02:53
And here I was under the impression that the Constitution forbids laws to be applied retroactively...(sigh)...
Posted by: Nathan James | 20 December 2008 at 09:04
i agree freeleo ...
we will win. let there be no doubt about that. despite the whining and the screeching coming from certain corners over 'the Warren thing', we have to trust that we did in fact elect the SMART GUY for a change.
with Obama's recent statement to put America back onto the forefront of science with the purpose of "...ensuring that facts and evidence are never twisted or obscured by politics or ideology..." I have no doubt that Rick Warren's creationist, anti-science 'ideology' will never trump the true mission of the smart guy we elected.
And yeah ... Prop 8 is dead Amendment walking. No doubt.
Posted by: Taylor Siluwé | 20 December 2008 at 12:12
as one of the screechers Taylor. Im trying to have your faith, but I need a sign...and Rick Warren certainly wasnt it.
Posted by: DFS | 20 December 2008 at 13:57
whew! thanks taylor siluwe. i thought i was alone in my belief.
Posted by: FREELEO | 20 December 2008 at 15:17
Time will soon show how aweful this propsition is.
Posted by: Nite In Shining Armour | 20 December 2008 at 15:45
This is really disgusting. The silver lining the Attorney General backing this, after not being for it. This gives it some clout. Hopefully if the people on our side parallels interracial marriages, this will work to our advantage.
The argument goes, that if this is allowed to happen then you have to overturn interracial marriges for the same reason if someone comes forward and presents a case against it. Even though some states cahnged the langauge to align themselves with interracial marriage, I'm sure not all have as of yet. People and state departments forget and say they'll get to it, ect.
So the passage went state by state and they can see who dropped the ball and fight for marriages that have already taken place. I'm sure the opponents are already looking at this angle to cover themselves, but hopefully our side has some tricks up it's sleeve.
This is going to tear that state apart and really push itself to the forefront of Obama's agenda, which is not a good thing. With so much on his plate already, issues like this usually take a backseat and America usually agrees with that. Or it is dealt with quickly and without much thought so that it is out of the way (in Amerca's eyes), such as DADT.
It was a middle ground solution no one liked, but showed that at least something was done. It was hard for either side to fight hard for or against it, since it addressed the issue enough for the moment and was told it could always be "revisted".
So hopefully this is something Obama won't have to deal with in his first '100 Days'.
Posted by: Diva1961 | 20 December 2008 at 16:47
Really? Now, they're reaching too far. It wouldn't be fair to rescind those person's marriage licenses who got married before Prop. 8. As others have said, I hope that they (the Prop. 8 supporters) don't succeed.
Posted by: Dex123ter | 20 December 2008 at 19:47
thank God for small miracles. Gay people do not deserve to be married. marrieage is between a man and a woman. Null and void!! I love it!!
Posted by: anthony Smith | 21 December 2008 at 20:08
Damn. So much for being Pro Marriage, Prop 8 supporters, by Taking away the marriages of 18,000 LGBT couples. We jumped the broom on the 1st, & we're still married regardless of what the law says.
Merry Christmas-& thanks for giving me a reason to be skeptical this holiday season to people's "goodwill towards their fellow man".
Posted by: 2Tigers | 21 December 2008 at 21:16
not gonna happen anthony smith and you straight people are going to be pissed..lol.. you don't even realize what's happening...
Posted by: FREELEO | 21 December 2008 at 21:18
I'm not straight. If I was straight I would not be on this website. I cannot side with Gay people because they are evil and you know it.
Posted by: anthony Smith | 23 December 2008 at 17:12
it's ok anthony. you can admit you are gay. god will still love you.
Posted by: FREELEO | 23 December 2008 at 19:53
I hope this happens. Yes, I am gay. However, I am black and I do not approve of what the cracker gays did in response to the vote on Prop 8. They blamed blacks (gay and straight) for the loss. Let them suffer. Take it all away from them. White gays need to learn a lesson. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
Posted by: David Knight | 25 December 2008 at 14:35
And I hope the likes of you and others who think like that get screwed over TWICE for hoping it does happpens. Don't be a hypocrite! You're blaming them the same way they did to Blacks in the Prop 8 protest. Funny how the general Homphobia in Black/Hispanic communities don't strike the same nerve the way a couple of gay gringos yelling out the N word.
Face it, if it does happen, you pendejos are the ones that get screwed over big time and I love your dumbass assumes that those 18,000 couples of ''crackas''.
Posted by: Kevin Perez | 25 December 2008 at 16:15