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26 March 2010

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Cedric

That's cool if there is no album in the making but please record again!! I am in no rush....not unless higher up has another plan for me. Can't wait to see WDIGM2!

Terry

I am a huge Janet fan and I really want a new album but, my favorite recent album is the Damita Jo album. Feedback? it wasnt her best...

Realness!

Nooooo!

Dante

take your time janet.
do whatever you feel is best.
your TRUE fans will always wait

Nevins

Rod, you kill me with the photos on this blog...that's such a stunning image of Janet.

Byron

Leaked? "Nothing" was released on 23-March.

Available on iTunes for purchase

http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/nothing-from-why-did-i-get/id363288152

HD

No one can have an on screen break down like Janet: Good Times, Poetic Justice, Why Did I Get Married and (strangely enough) Nutty Professor II so I'm expecting more of the same from the "Perfect Patty" this time, too.

I would LOVE another Janet album but only if it's with Jimmy & Terry helming it. She can work with other producers but they need to be in charge!

JinCA

I don't blame her for taking her time, her last few CD's have all sold badly and her tours have had to cancel shows because of poor ticket sales. She needs to take her time and try to market herself right to try to become relevant again.

whatuthink

She needs to feel through cause her last 3 albums had less appealing songs than appealing.

I'm more curious about her going independent... i would've asked more question on the plan of how it would take hold.

QH

I think people want to get amnesia. Despite any of the lame politics that surrounded and smothered the commercial aspirations of her last three albums, all three were quite solid, "Damita Jo" being a neo-Jackson classic standing. I'm glad she is making people hungry for her work, versus giving them good product and having trash it just because it is "in" to do so.

Either way, her music still stands strong. Sales aren't everything, and icons like Diana Ross, Tina Turner, Donna Summer all weathered soft sales, and the records that sold soft usually end up becoming cult favorites anyway. Quality music sometimes sells, sometimes doesn't, either way quality is what should matter and Jackson has had it on her last three LPs. People need to get over "commercial means goods."-QH

JinCA

Commercial means something to the people who actually get paid to do this. Do you think she's got people fighting over paying for her to put out a new CD when they won't get their money back? when her live shows have to he cancelled because she can't sell enough tickets or when they have to put money into making and marketing a CD only to have it flop not only is it bad for the people backing her financially it's also bad for her reputation and I'm sure for her ego.

She out of all the women who have been big performers over the past 15-20 years has fallen more than anyone from a commercial perspective. Madonna still sells out shows in 80,000 seat stadiums at inflated ticket prices (her last tour was the highest grossing for a single artist ever), Mariah Carey still sells CD's (up until her most current)even though she can't fill 1500 seat theaters and the list goes on. Janet seemed to just quietly drop off of the face of the earth to a lot of people and she's tried hard to get back "in it" but nothing has really worked for her so far and things just keep getting worse.

You can say sales don't mean quality and there is some truth to that but the quality of a song is always subjective to the listener, sales are the only thing you can really measure.

QH

Again JinCa, your superficial approach to music is subjective as well. I'm quite a Madonna fan, and her approach is her approach.

I'd rather Janet Jackson make quality music than sell herself out to appeal to whom? 14-21 year olds who have the attention span of a tick? Yes, like Madonna sold herself out with "Hard Candy" due to her diminishing American sales, and how it didn't really do anything for her but get her ONE hit single off the record, doing nothing to restore her singles luster she lost since "Music" in the U.S.?

That didn't mean records like "American Life" or "Conefessions on a Dancefloor" weren't good, they just weren't marketable in the States. The truth is, you can't stay on top froever, and true legends are ones that eventually realize it isn't the complete amount of your bankroll, but the quality of your work, which in the end may end up assisting that said blank roll.-QH

Black and White Mage

JinCA, have you ever bought a Janet album before? I'm just wondering because you seem to based you opinions from only hear say. She had to cancel some of her concert because of vertigo. Oh by the way, Damita Jo did sale 3 million world wide, 20 Y.O. did @ least 1.5 million world wide. They may not be like her past album sales, but in comparison to most artists sale that's pretty damn good. You make seem like she only sold 20,000 copies worldwide or something like that. Also, have you looked at her total tour gross for the rock wit u tour? I'm pretty sure that sponsors make their money back. Oh yeah, for the cancel tour dates in Japan, the dates was sold out.

Another point I want to point out is, I have ever seen artist bashed as constantly as Janet Jackson (minus her brother, Michael). Especially by people like your self--I suspect that u probably like the vast majority of the that took Justin Timberlake out of the Superbowl performance and pinned the blame solely on Janet.

JinCA

LOL don't assume too much B&Wmage, I have bought janet cd's before yes and I've heard the ones I haven't bought. Seems like you are a huge fan of hers and that's great but you greatly over exaggerate what I said, don't know why you take it personally.

I'm not going to lie and say she's my favorite or anything, I'd have to say I lost interest in her because her shows just seem like the same thing over and over again with different costumes and I get tired of people lip synching even the slow songs at their shows. I know that she's a "performer" not a singer really but people like her and Brittany Spears just seem to do the same kind of thing all the time and don't really offer anything new, and don't try to tell me she sings live I've seen plenty of her shows and I've only heard her try to sing half of a song live once and you couldn't even understand what she was saying. She obviously dances too much to sing most of the time but when you are faking the slow songs that's bad.

As far as the superbowl thing, they were both in on it and both obviously tried to hide from what they did purposely and pretend that it was an accident, I lost respect for both of them when that happened, not because of the nipple being half way shown on tv but because they didn't have the guts to stand behind their little publicity stunt.

As far as my other post when she cancelled shows A LOT of people said that were in a position to know that the illness was just a cover, she conveniently seems to get sick on every tour doesn't she? and her record sales have been bad, she is someone who gets paid a lot of money from her labels she's not a small independant artist and her shows are expensive to put on that's why she needs sell outs to make the money back and she wasn't getting them, a lot of her shows were only 1/4 to 1/2 sold out and I have to believe that would not make her feel good to be putting on a show to a half empty arena when at the same time Madonna was doing shows in stadiums infront of 70,000 + people in the US let alone around the world in even larger places. I'm not trying to compare the 2 in that regard I'm just saying when Madonna charges 2 times as much as Janet for a show and gets over 2 and somtimes 3 times as many people to show up even with no radio play in the US she must be doing something right to stay in peoples minds and I think that's what Janet needs to think about, otherwise she's just going to continue to slip further and further from a commercial perspective.

Again no reason to take that personally like a couple of you seem to have done, if you love her that's awesome and I'm sure you'll continue to love everything she puts out but it's not superficial to see where people who actually have to finance her would have issues doing so, it's an investment and it doesn't seem that they are making much money back when they invest in her. I didn't say that was the right way to think about it but that's just how it goes so please don't tell me I have a "superficial view" I'm just looking at it realistically.

Black and White Mage

I have "...greatly over exaggerate what I said" are sure about that let's examine this claim...

"her last few CD's have all sold badly and her tours have had to cancel shows because of poor ticket sales." You said that her last few CD's all sold badly, by citing her sales..i have demonstrated that, in fact, her sales may of not been extraordinary, but not as badly as you were implying by the tone of your comments....For example, for someone "to just quietly drop off of the face of the earth to a lot of people" to sell another 5.5 million albums is a gross exaggeration on YOUR part.

Again JinCA, please come with facts. "...a lot of her shows were only 1/4 to 1/2 sold out and I have to believe that would not make her feel good to be putting on a show to a half empty arena" The number that I have found indicate otherwise:

(Tickes Sold/Available) 114,034 / 136,542 (84%)

(Gross Revenue) $9,917,237. A little bit shy of 10 million for 13 tour dates.

Either you cannot do basic math or blindly citing and stating what you hear in the popular media, it seem like a lot of her shows, on average, were only 3/20 empty and not 3/4 or 1/2 empty like you were implying. Also, I so loved how you overlooked the Japan dates I mention.

"As far as my other post when she canceled shows A LOT of people said that were in a position to know that the illness was just a cover, she conveniently seems to get sick on every tour doesn't she?" Can you name me an artist that has been preforming for more than 10 years that HAVEN'T gotten sick while touring. Hell, her older brother had to cancel some concerts due to migrate problems before in the early 90's. For all we know it could run in the family. Can you cite the source that you are getting that info that the "illness was just a cover" from?

"As far as the Superbowl thing, they were both in on it and both obviously tried to hide from what they did purposely and pretend that it was an accident, I lost respect for both of them when that happened, not because of the nipple being half way shown on tv but because they didn't have the guts to stand behind their little publicity stunt."
The nipple half way shown was for 9/16th of a damn second on T.V. The white male get radio play and even more promotions the black female the dogged out by the media and treated like a damn virus (JinCA are you black? just wonder cuz a lot of other folks don not seem to get this point)

"...no reason to take that personally like a couple of you seem to have done, if you love her that's awesome and I'm sure you'll continue to love everything she puts out but it's not superficial to see where people who actually have to finance her would have issues doing so, it's an investment and it doesn't seem that they are making much money back when they invest in her."

This my problem with you, nothing was personal JinCA. You were claiming wrong information that the MASSES (whom hates her because it is "in" to hate her) have been saying about this women, but on the contrary, the data suggests otherwise. How do you know companies are not interested in her? In fact, the hyperlink that Rod posted that you may or may not have clicked, she says, "There have been a lot of record labels that have asked me to sit down and talk with them, but I don’t know if I want to do something completely independent, or go with a major.” I don't thinks she is having a hard time finding some to finance her...

But, personally, I don't think you like and that is fine and I do doubt that have ever bought anything by her or let alone listen to an album of her and that is fine as well. What I don't like is how everyone is so quick to judge and dog her out when she is so damn modest and comes of like a really nice down-to-earth person. Unlike, a good number of celebrities.

Cedric

B & W you went in on the subject. Now as far as Madonna and Janet goes...yes they are both entertainers but there is a slight differences....one is white and the other is black. We as a race do not support and hold that support for our Legends and Icons. I am not saying all but this is how it works. I cannot think of too many Legends that are R & B that can managed to pull in those numbers. We tend to lose interest if it is not current and fail to remember the history of the artist. It is sad but true they we just dont support. I have been to ALL of her concerts and funny I dont recall her lip-syncing. Yes I have seen her in Germany as well and it was the real thing! Janet is a performer and LUV her for ALL of her past efforts and support she has given. She will certainly have a devoted fanatic in me! Smoochies!

Keith

As another devoted Janet fan, I am loving this debate about her relevance to the business. I agree totally with QH, Black and White Mage and Cedric (especially on the impact of race, that it has become "in" to bash her and the tick-like attention span on today's youth and radio).

As for my opinion, her legacy is cemented and I just hope that she is truly happy with whatever creative expression she decides to give - music, movies or both.

QH

Black and White Mage is a beast. Break him down, educate the fool!-QH

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