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27 October 2006



I live in Atlanta and know that area quite well. It is popular with black gays but tghe neighborhood is dicey.


I know one of the men who was beaten up. It's just awful, hopefully they will find these hoods.

Zoe Wills

The bashing was reported on the news here but that follow-up in the Southern Voice is obviously much more extensive. Gay bashings are very common here, contrary to the notion that this is some black San Francisco. It's still southern and very traditional.


More violence against our black brothers and sisters ... perpetrated by our brothers and sisters.


Thanks for bring us news from all around the country. No offense, but some of your fellow black gay activist and bloggers only become outraged when a gay man or woman is hurt in NYC.


Good point, Carl. But since most of the black gay intelleigentisa is in New York or Los Angeles, like anyone else, they can only respond to what is most immediate.

Speaking of that, I know thee are many black gay men in Atlanta and have even read some of their blogs. Do they ever want to write about events and situations in Atlanta?


Answer to CA: No. They spend too much time writing about Noah's Arc or posting photos of porn stars. Not very into community.


It is sad when anyone is the victim of a gay bashing. But sadder still that some people choose such occasion to point fingers at others who are doing something constructive.

As a New Yorker, I can tell you we respond to the events that are happening here in NYC. The real question is where is Atlanta's Black gay community response? Are you waiting for someone to come in from the outside and do for you what you should be doing for yourselves?

A. Ronald

"CA" and "Bernie", you make excellent points. The fact of the matter is that New York, and to another extent Washington D.C., have more mature, organized gay communities. And, there are more media, activities, venues and pursuits to engage them. Not only is there a black gay culture, there is community as well.

Atlanta has a very large black gay population but it is newer. There is culture to be sure--parties and events--but not much community. There is a huge difference.

Not sure about all of you, but I'm happy that we have Rod 2.0. I live in Atlanta and it's exciting to discover news and information about black gay men from across the country and around the world.


Bernie is right, a tragedy is a tragedy. However, ATL is very very liberal and gay friendly compared to Georgia's conservative politics. The black gay leaders there may want to start organizing the community, engaging police and media to make sure these crimes are prosecuted. And, to put these hoodlums on notice.

j. brotherlove

How about less generalization and more personal accountability? For the record, I live in Atlanta and I have blogged about "events and situations" like these before. So has Karsh, Malik, Mike, Byron, Kevin, Charles...

These "Why can't City A be like City B" comparisons are pointless. Different cities have their own geography, history, personality, politics, etc. All of these things contribute to building community. I have regular conversations about the lack of a well-formed BLGBT community with other black lesbians and gays in Atlanta, and the steps that need to be taken to support one. I believe we are at the beginnings of building these vehicles but there really needs to be more input from the younger kids, in my opinion.

While these attacks are hideous, a positive outcome would be for people to channel their outrage into action. ITLA, for example, is an organization that not only produces the popular Black Pride but also coordinates marches during that time and MLK Holiday. There are opportunities in Atlanta for those who really want to make a difference.

Mike (AKA) Prime

As an ATL blogger (on hiatus from community blogging) and an organizer, I used to regularly blog about current events, community concerns, and other important issues, such as this - along with a host of other local bloggers. But no one really cared.

Blog about Beyonce or Janet (especially if you say something negative about either) and you can guarantee instant readership and response.

Even more frustrating is getting people to come to the table to be a part of the process to organize and to bring resources to the effort. The same 5- 10 people are guaranteed to show up, but rarely are there new faces willing to “put themselves out there like that”.

Are people responding to this tragedy here in Atlanta? Yes. Are they spending time blogging about it, no. Is that so wrong? Not in my opinion. Blogs are great to help inform and I thanks to sites like Rod 2.0, information gets out to far more people than in the past. But now that you know, what are you doing about it?

How many of my fellow ATL residents who have spent time to comment and criticize have called the APD Liaison to the LGBT community, Officer Darlene Harris, to find out what YOU can do? How many of you have written or called your local city council representative to express your concern and outrage?

Just who are you sitting back and waiting for to do what you are so critical of others for not doing?


Mike, this is DeShawn, I have met you before. You have done a great job with organizing, I hope I didn't imply that no one was doing anyting. You have done more than most of us.

Mike makes a great point. We all know that most people gravitate toward what is easy and fun. Write about Beyonce, Janet or Oprah, you'll get thousands of vistors and responses. Discuss news and current affairs and people tune out. Later, these same ones will complain about the government--but they don't vote.

Former L.A. bro now in ATL and loving it!

THANK YOU J.Brothalove! Great post.
Mike and ATL Kid, your views on folks being more interested in Beyonce or Janet rather than politics or other non-entertainment news is not limited to the ATL black gay community. Sadly, it's the case for the majority of America. Witness the proliferation of Entertainment Tonight type shows on tv.

Rod McCullom

Many of you have very valid points. I can understand some concerns about the importance attached to events here in New York, but, all politics are local. People usually react to what they can see, touch and experience. So, it's really not up to New York, LA or ATL activists to monitor events outside of their own communities.

J and Mike make excellent points. Organizing and community activism is a slow, tedious and long-term proposition, like nurturing a garden this fall and winter and hoping for blooming flowers in the spring. It takes time.

That being said, I've seen wonderful black gay community down in Atlanta, which is one of the reasons I visit frequently and try to regularly follow news. However, as J noted, there is a tremendous influx of transients and younger people who are slow to settle, take roots and participate. Once again, it takes time--and people who are willing.

Lastly, a gentle reminder to those who compared this to other blogs. That's not fair to others. Every site, like every person, is different. Rod 2.0 is more of a resource than a personal journal, and, has a much broader focus and readership. However, as J noted above, we are all building community.

Earl FF

It's a shame when ever and where ever this happens. Hopefully those punks will be caught.



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