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02 April 2008

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ca

I hate to play schoolmarm, but did you know there is a typo in your headline?

No spellcheck in the headline field, right? ;)

Rod McCullom

Got it, thanks.

Oh, and no, the spellcheck does "not" cover the headline field, lol.

Bernie

More of that hollow patriotism Republicans are so good at. Let's take the country into a war that didn't need to happen, destroy relations with all our allies, take the country into an economic recession, but oh, heaven help you if you don't blindly goose-step behind the flag or call people on their racist bullshit.

Republicans are so full of it!

Andy Niable

Goodness! If MSNBC is the "Obama Network," how did they let that hurtful-to-Obama comment slip onto the air? Maybe they should consider a 5-second delay or lose the satellite feed (like happened to McAuliffe on Maher a few weeks ago)? (Go easy on me, Rod, I'm smiling here.)

Still--point taken about the Pin-heads. The Obama campaign will have to continue to fight the ignorance as the stupid Flag Pin Controversy will continue to be fanned for as much smoke as the Right WingNuts can get from it. And those who rate patriotism on such a shallow measure were likely not to be Obama voters in the first place.

As for the Michelle "quote" I assume your quotation marks in the post are intended ironically, as if they were from the Right-Wingnuts, as the exact quote itself is not "I-have-never-been-proud-of-my-country" but rather, "For the first time in my life, I am REALLY proud of my country." (Emphasis added.) Not a great moment Barack's campaign, I admit, but not quite the same as the above hyphenated "quote." We wouldn't want people to think those were her actual words.

Keep up the good work, though, Rod--everyone should appreciate your coverage. Those in both camps are still all Democrats, and regardless of who is the Democratic nominee, we'll all need to be on our toes. Hillary or Obama--either is in for a sh*tstorm from the GOP.

TheRevKev

THIS KIND OF MADNESS IS THE BEST AND SWEETEST WAY, FOR ME PERSONALLY, OF KNOWING THAT AS MUCH AS REPUBLICANS AND EVEN SOME DEMOCRATS WHINE ABOUT SENATOR OBAMA'S "ELECTABILITY," HE IS THE ONE WHAT COULD REALLY MAKE SOME NOISE IN NOVEMBER!

TO CONTINUE THE SICK, SAD HYPERBOLE OF "IS HE MUSLIM, IS HE AMERICAN ENOUGH, IS HE BLACK ENOUGH, IS HE EXPERIENCED ENOUGH?" ARE ALL IRRELEVANT TO THE REAL LEVEL OF ENTHUSIASM FOR AND MOMENTUM BEHIND THIS "CHANGE" MANDATE!

IT'S ABOUT TO GO DOWN BECAUSE THEY STOPPED COMING AFTER BILLARY AND ARE ON OBAMA HARD...THANKS! I AM MORE COMMITTED TO SPENDING MONEY AND MAKING NOISE FOR BARACK OBAMA THAN EVER! WE WANT TO "PROVE" THAT WE ARE "THE MOST PROGRESSIVE" COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND THAT'S NOT JUST IN THE POSSIBILITY OF A WOMAN. IT'S ABOUT BRINGING INTO LEADERSHIP SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED AROUND THE WORLD, HAS MANY RACES IN HIS OWN FAMILY AND WHO ISN'T AFRAID TO QUESTION THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE HE IS PRODDING AND PROVOKING US TO HIGHER LEVEL OF CONVERSATIONS AND THUS ACTION!

I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!

Rod Mc

Andy, this was a quote from Mitt Romney, not one of the staff pundits or anchors at MSNBC who have been publicly reprimanded, such as Shuster, Carlson or Matthews, Buchanan, Scarborough, etc.

This is almost insulting. We have had many discussions, online and off, on Obama's media darling status, but, there are numerous studies if you need quantitative evidence.

elg

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright's more sensational remarks may very well take Obama down in the general election.

Xavier Green

Ok, this is starting to become a trend and with the same people in every post. Rod, darling I love you, but you do not have to personally respond to every Obamaton and Hillary troll.

This is what Mitt Romney said that went unchallenged by Scarborough, who, is a former GOP congressman and quite open with his views. I'm an Obama supporter, but can easily admit Obama has been given a free ride by the press. I can also see Rod's point that Obama has never pushed back on the Muslim smear or patriotism thing, which is becoming more of a talking point. If someone is disagreeing with that, maybe they're more accustomed to the vast, anti-Hillary echo chamber.

Say what you want about Hillary, but she is much smarter at pushing back on media bias and serving notice on what is acceptable. Maybe that's because she has battled the "vast right wing conspiracy" much longer. Maybe it's because the Obama campaign doesn't want to start fighting with the media, who has basically given him good press. If his campaign or surrogates start complaining, then the media will be more aggressive.

Greg G

Preach on, reverend! Preach on!

Greg G

And yes, "ELG", I think you're right. Now the Democrats are in the position of having defended someone who said "God damn America" from the pulpit.

Rev Kev, how do you feel about Rev. Wright's comments?

Ryan Canty

i'm not surprised by ms. romney--still mad because his flip-flopping cost him the nomination. wow, the republicans LOVE letting geritol drinking, old as dirt white men run their party and be their party nominees...

i just dont get how republicans are so OUT of touch with society and what Americans need...

I feel that MSNBC allowing romney to speak is indicative of how really ALL media outlets are truly republican favored and run...dont think for a minute that the news nets favor clinton OR obama with the amount of conservative analysts and strategists they have on their shows..

Obama better find a way to come BACK from this..he barely is walking away from the Rev. Wright fiasco and now this...It looks like race, religion, and the republican american way are going to be thorns in the side of whoever the democratic nominee is....

not particularly impressed with the republicans, and not exactly 100% impressed with either nominee....

but, if my option is a mccain-romney vs. a clinton-obama, a clinton-edwards, or an obama-edwards ticket, provided there isn't a third party socialist candidate speaking TRUTH on the ballot, i'm going democrat.

im more afraid of another 8 years of republicans and another 100 years in iraq than i am of a democratic nominee who is suspect in her--OR his--own regard

Ryan Canty

To Xavier:

I like how you think. And, you are speaking the truth...

of course, the obamacans dont want to hear it. But, what you are saying is true..and how many people feel.

derrick foss

I think Ryan has a point. It's ridiculous how a "news" anchor will allow a statement like that to go unchallenged, but, not unbelievable, given the anchor. I don't think this network or anchors "love" Obama as much as they "hate" Hillary. But, like much of the MSM, they will prop Obama up until the nomination, then continually slam him to make room for John McCain.

Ryan is right, these posts about the media turning on Obama seem to infuriate the Obama llamas more than any positive news. Especially on this site, which has said for more than a year that Obama and his supporters have focused on Hillary hate and ignored the Republican smear machine. It's too late, the train has left the station.

ATL Kid

Hi Rod, was my earlier comment deleted?

TheRevKev

MY COMMENT ON DR. WRIGHT FROM ANOTHER SITE:

I continue to be floored and flustered by people's references to Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright and his sermons. It's such an ongoing light on the fact that many people haven't understood the fundamental need within many cultures and surely in the Black culture to hear a voice that speaks from where we are and doesn't concern itself with the mainstream.

What's so sad is how many people--Black, white, Democrat, Republican--clearly don't know much about Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King beyond his "I HAVE A DREAM" speech, which was NOT a sermon. He questioned America on the Vietnam War, on its treatment of its Black citizens and many of its workers. Dr. King would be vilified and dissected in so many ways in this current culture of pseudo-paparazzi exposure to tidbits and tainted perceptions that there would have probably been public cries for his assassinations from well-intended Christians who would have questioned both his credentials and his patriotism.

God forbid that all of these people who continue to rant and rave against Dr. Wright would actually read the Bible. Jesus, much beloved as The Prince of Peace, is always seem and served up on a platter as a quiet and meek messiah. But most people forget about the TURNING OVER THE TABLES IN THE CHURCH AND KICKING OUT TAX COLLECTORS...THE MAN WHO TOLD THE CROWD TO PUT DOWN THEIR STONES OR FACE THEIR OWN SINS HEAD ON...THE SAME SAVIOUR WHO TOLD THE WOMAN THAT DOGS WEREN'T WORTHY TO EAT FROM THE MASTER'S TABLE AND WHEN SHE SAID 'AREN'T WE WORTHY OF THE CRUMBS', HE CHANGED HIS MIND AND HIS MOUTH AND BLESSED HER ON THE SPOT!

WHERE ARE THE REFERENCES TO JESUS AND SOCIAL JUSTICE THAT DOESN'T EVER AGREE WITH THE MAINSTREAM, BUT THAT QUESTIONS AND PUSHES AND PRODS AND PROVOKES?!

I am personally proud to be from the school of Social Justice and while some of the words of Dr. Wright might fray some feathers, the truth is that Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright is speaking so closely to the Heart of Jesus than many of those who are so vehemently, and at times violently, oppose his very presence.

TO QUESTION IS TO BE CONCERNED and to question someone's patriotism based on the flag would be to question so many people who don't rock the flag in front of their homes...those who wear bikinis and tank tops of a flag that they say that they love so well...South Carolina still waving the Confederate flag...WHERE DOES IT END!? MANY ARE NOT AS AMERICAN, IN ITS TRUEST, MOST POWERFUL, MOST BRILLIANT SENSE, AS THEY PROFESS!

GOD IS GOOD AND EVEN THE BIBLE SAYS "STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED" and to study is to question and to query and to grow from the experiences!

Blesings Abound,
Elder Kevin E. Taylor


Rod McCullom

ATL Kid, your comment was accidentially deleted, there was another that I was trying to scrub, sorry. ;)

Rev Kev, that is a beautiful thought, thank you for sharing.

Derrick from Philly

Amen, RevKev, and thanks.

The Obama Campaign has to be ready for this. There is no way they could be unprepared at this point--once they "finish" with their primary opponent. The blind, fake patriotism of men like Romney (and right-wing religious figures) must be attacked--NOT BY OBAMA (he is above that kinda' shit), but by his surrogates (Pelosi, Reid, Dean, Kennedy, KERRY, and hopefully soon, Wesley Clark, etc.). And the retaliation by the surrogates must be relentless and brutal.

I wish Dr. Wright himself could have made more TV appearances in defense of his statements. He is a brilliant man, and an ex-marine who has served his country. What branch of the military did these facist Republican faggots (Bush, Romney, Cheyney, etc.) serve in?

Just Jack

Derrick, I think something that Rod has pointed out for ... a year? ... is despite the brilliance of the Obama campaign they have not pushed back on this talking point.

Oh, and the Obama campaign does not want to use John Kerry, Ted Kennedy , Howard Dean or Nancy Pelosi as surrogates. First, Dean and Pelosi are officially neutral, but are not, and they got us into this ridiculous MI/FL quandry. Secondly, John Kerry wrote the book on how not to deal with Swiftboating ... which it seems like the Obama campaign is following.

Ted Kennedy sends the wrong image, imho.

Andy Niable

Rod, Rod, Rod--re-read my comment. I said the MSNBC comment with a SMILE (read, joke, lol, funny, etc.) My point was that you called MSNBC "Obama Network" which would seem to be contradicted by Those In Charge even putting Romney on the air or Not Vigorously Challenging Him. Make sense? Hence, I SMILED (and said so) and made a comment on that. No insult intended.

Of course we've agreed about Obama's media darling status, and yes it continues. What in my comment in any way disagrees with that contention? No quantitative evidence required, as it is everywhere. No disagreement here. I continue to agree with you, and said nothing to the contrary. The first paragraph of my comment WAS A JOKE. Again, no insult was intended, nor have I ever intended to insult you personally in any comment I have made. Ever. If you have taken one as such, I am sorry to hear it.

I believe I continue to end my posts with an expression of my appreciation and respect for your work, even if I disagree with an opinion or see a contradiction in something I read. Friends don't make such comments with insults intended. If you misunderstood, I'll try to be clearer next time.

Derrick from Philly

Just Jack,

Thanks for the response. The leaders of the Democratic Party are "neutral" during the primaries. After the nominee has been chosen, he becomes the leader of the Democratic Party. Dean, Pelosi, Gore, Mrs Clinton, etc. all are supposed to be working for the nominee/leader in the general election (surrogates). They should be the ones to attack the Republicans. It may be difficult to get the Clintons to do their duty as Democrats, but the others have an obligation to fight for Barack Obama's Campaign in the fall of 2008. Any Democrat who doesn't support the nominee/ leader is a traitor(f==kin' Zell Miller); especially when that leader/nominee has said nor done anything to offend any faction within the party. And that's what Barack Obama has done, and why he is about to make history winning the Democratic nomination.

Rod McCullom

Derrick: Hillary Clinton said numerous times that if Obama is the nominee, she will support him. Earlier this week, Clinton also encouraged all "Democrats" to stick together and not vote for McCain in the fall, regardless of who is the nominee.

Samuel I

Derrick, and, to some extent, Andy Niable. I'm a Clinton supporter, and, have to say that the tone from Obama supporters is often unduly harsh. Especially on the 'net. This blog is actually one of the few that doesn't trash Clinton 24/7/365. The Clinton supporters are about half the party, "Democrats" who have always voted "Democrat", and if Obama is the nominee, he's going to need our help to win in November. That is assuming you want to win in November.

The second issue I have, as a longtime Democrat and a Clinton supporter, is the Democratic "brand", as Rod mentioned above. Talk to any Clinton supporter, and they will rattle off her favorables and unfavorables, her strenghths and weaknesses. Most Obama supporters ... they don't understand his weaknesses and believe he walks on water. If the Obama campaign continues to allow prominent Republicans to say he is not American or does not love the flag, and ignore when the media allows it to go unchallenged, then that will be the face of our party.

I'm sorry, but Obama and his campaign have NOT fought back on this anti-American thing. Its been going on long, long before the recent unpleasantness. And to say its silly or "typical", ignores the reality. Its exactly what the GOP did in 1988, 2000 and 2004. And they won.

Rod Mc

Samuel, it's not necessarily about being right or wrong, or who you support. Conservatives always do this to progressives and Democrats. Maybe we can all work together and try to speak out.

Duwayne

I agree with Samuel. I have talked to many friends and family who are Obama supporters and all they seem to care about is "winning" against Hillary. Several have told me they do not care if McCain wins as long as Hillary "loses". Of course this kind of mentality is not going to help Obama in the general election because I can easily see 10-20% of Democrats (many Clinton supporters and some Edwards supporters) voting for McCain. It is not enough for Obama to gain massive black and youth vote. Kerry SHOULD have won the election with such an unpopular president but ended up losing despite his lead in most of the polls leading up to election day. Obama's supports seem pretty content on him LOSING the election to McCain as long as he beats Clinton. I don't think this logic will serve him very well in November.

Duwayne

Another thing I will add is I get the feeling a lot of Obama's core supporters don't WANT Clinton's supporters at this point in time. They seem to be talking very negatively not only about Clinton but her supporters saying all sorts of things that don't bode well for a united democratic party. I will say I don't think this is Obama's feeling but his camp is not doing a good job at courting Clinton's supporters for the November election.

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