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02 October 2008

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Dupree

Noah's Arc is a guilty pleasure. Nothing more and nothing less. With that in mind, Darryl is a sensitive and sexy young man and the inteview is spot on. You can't please everyone.

I cannot wait for October 24.

Noel

Wasn't Alex supposed to be a top?

In real life I have met a number of femme tops. That is not unusual.

JHud fan

These comments are interesting. Y'all don't realize it, but you actually prove Darryl's point- that the decision to come out as an actor in hollywood can definitely affect what roles you get offered. Many of you have criticized the roles he's taken since Noah's Arc. Are you kidding me? I used to act- and let me tell you, black actors don't often get afforded the luxury of picking and choosing which roles they take. Unless you're Will Smith, it's slim pickins for most black talent in hollywood! And if you have the balls to come out of the closet on top of that, it'll most likely further limit what parts you get offered. The fact that he took a bit part as a waiter on Ugly Betty should show you that Darryl, like most black actors who aren't Will Smith, is taking what he can get- to pay the bills and be able to eat. This isn't a hobby, it's his career/job. But instead of giving him a little credit, all we can do is tear him down for not coming out when WE felt he should. It's no wonder more black Hollywood talent won't come out as gay. There's no support out here for them- I'd stay closeted too.

And one more thing- we all must remember, this show was not created by the actors. They were ACTORS hired to do a job, to play roles. The series was the vision of the producer, Mr. Polk- so it seems kinda silly to me to criticize the actors' decision to not come out publicly as gay, as though that somehow diminishes the positive gay messages of the show. Sean Hayes may not have come out as gay, but that doesn't lessen the cultural impact of Will and Grace's success- a tv show created by two openly gay writers. Apologize for the long- windedness... just my 2 cents.

ATL Kid

Sorry JHud fan.

Darryl officially came out in December. He acted in Boy Culture, Another Gay Movie and that gay MTV show LONG BEFORE he officially came out.

It's totally dishonest to say those roles were offered to him AFTER he came out. Darryl Stephens has made a career from playing gay characters. It's not like he was on CSI or Las Vegas.

C. Baptiste-Williams

"Prince Charming fantasy for those femme queens in Alabama."... that was a good laugh David...

too bad since it is a "limited" release those femme queens will be driving to the one theater in Atlanta that will be carrying it for a couple weeks.

JHud fan

ATL Kid, I never said he got those roles BECAUSE he came out. My point was there aren't a lot of roles for black actors, period. And it's even harder if you are openly gay. And all those projects you mentioned are small gay indie movies- none of those are main stream Hollywood projects- which, again, for black actors are scarce at best. And Stephens himself said in an interview that he only got Boy Culture role because the director of that film knew the creator of noah's arc and asked him for black actor suggestions. The point is simply- it's tough for black actors, period. Doubly tough if you happen to be openly gay on top of that.

ATL Kid

That's not what you said earlier. You said those were the roles he had been offered since coming out.

Look, I don't disagree there is a lack of opportunities in Hollywood. But there is a recession going on, it's tough all over. And no one told Darryl Stephens to act in movies and tv, he wanted celebrity so badly, he wanted to be the darling of the gay indie circuit, he has to deal with it.

JHud fan

"No one told Darryl Stephens to act in movies and tv, he wanted celebrity so badly, he wanted to be the darling of the gay indie circuit, he has to deal with it"? So what are you saying ATL? He shouldn't come out? He shouldn't take roles in gay projects? How about celebrating a black actor who has the guts to take on such roles, when so few black actors would ever do so? And recession or not, roles for black actors are and have always been few and far between.

David

Oh please. Darryl has made a career from being the cute black gay boy. Stop describing him as some long suffering artiste.

Lang B.

Kind of funny that he chose a gay role and then dodges his own sexuality. Playing that character obviously would shed a light on you as an actor or your person. Maybe that is Darryl's angle to bring press to himself.

When the fame dies down I will pull out the coming out card.

Don't know hiom buit he seems quite comfy being gay identified.

I was once offered a cover of a gay mag but turned it down 'cause I was uncomfortable with my sexuality at the time and did not want to bring a light (questions) about it.

It's choices.

BTW, there is s double standard for blacks in the industry.

Donovan

Lang, you make an excellent. I never thought about that. Darryl's coming out gave him some much needed press.

Oh and why do the Patrik Ian Polk MySpacers insist on calling him Mr Polk? Please. More like Miss Polk. Listen to her speak. Trust!

Earl

Rodney Chester did not say he was straight! He said that he never said he was gay! Get it together Rod!

Travis

I would like to read the whole interview but I like what I see so far. Darryl is gorgeous and talented and very articulate. I cannot wait until the 24th!

JHud fan

I don't recall Stephens ever dodging his sexuality. There's a big difference between not discussing your private life and outwardly denying your sexuality- as we've seen Latifah, Alicia Keys, Ne-Yo, Tyler Perry and countless other "suspect" black entertainment types do over and over again, as though being gay is the worst thing anyone could ever be accused of being. Jodie Foster is another good example. She never denies being gay- she simply chooses not to discuss it.

And no one is calling Stephens a "long-suffering artiste". But he is an actor who has made the brave choice to take on numerous gay roles- even though in this climate, actors who do so run the very real and likely risk of being judged both by the mainstream community AND by their own gay community- as evidenced by many of the negative comments in this thread.

And Donovan, why resort to silly homophobic insults? I swear sometimes it seems like we get it worse from our fellow gay brothas than we do from the straight community. Everyone else hates us- do we really have to hate each other? Sigh.

Aaron

I have always been out in my personal life and at work, but I don't judge others for not being out. I'm not living their life. Darryl Stephens has made the choices that are right for him and I respect that.

nathans

Some of you are proving the poin that you are damned if you do and damned if you dont ... so I say to Darryl f*** the haters Just do you. I respect your talent and I wish you much sucess in the future

Ryan

hmmm...the article wasn't bad.

but, i do agree with a host of posters who share the same belief that how can we support a show or be positive about actors who didnt come out yet were up in gay clubs all over the country demanding we support them and come out, etc.

that don't make sense to me at all...i'm not advocating for folk to be the poster children for out "celebrities" and i use that term loosely since not one is KNOWN in any stretch of the word...just the truth....

but,nothing wrong with being out to yourself or being more positive and supportive OF US..while you are going through your own process.

the interview was cute...but, it still comes off as false to me.

Derrick from Philly

Anti-believer:

Theater is stage, movies, television, recorded literature.

Derrick from Philly

Anti-believer:

I actually agree with you that a TV/movie actor should not be openly gay IF he is seeking stardom or matinee idol status. Obviously, Darryl Stephens has decided it is not important for him to reach "star status"--he just wants to have steady work. We may have reached a point where an openly gay actor can do that--have steady TV/Film work.

FEM vs BUTCH

I hate being a spokesme...spokesperson for fem gay males. You see, I'm not twenty-something and hoping to still find a man. I can go to a gay bar, gay pride event, gay film festival and not be sexually interested in a single soul I see there--even the muscle boys. I fantasize about the Reggie Bushes, but it aint real.

So, when I read the comments of gay men complaining about the presence of too many feminine males in the gay world my first reaction is, "I don't want you either, butch queen". But like I said, young fem gay males DO want companionship as well as sex, and so my "50 year old perspective" may not do them any GOOD...'cause I aint feelin' no pain. Like many real 50 year old females, I may get horny for a man, but I never get lonely for one.

Bill

After reading all the negative commentary about not coming out when OTHER people decided you should, I would stay in the closet or never discuss my sexuality either. The idea that someone other than yourself should decide how you should live your own life is horrible. Going to gay clubs and other venues to ask people to support someone product (Noah's Arc show) does not REQUIRE you to out yourself. Noah's Arc is a SHOW, and these are ACTORS people. This is the same as saying only openly gay people could/should play gay roles, and only openly straight people should play straight roles. You do not HAVE to be your chracter/product. Should only virgins play virgins, murders play murders, rapists only rapists, ect.? It is horrible that not only does a gay, black actor have to deal with how he is perceived by his agent, the production studio, white hollywood, black hollywood, the straight white community, the black straight community, and the gay white community, he has to worry about his own black gay community. I would never come out and let all the critics say what they and keep pressing on. Being someone in the "business", as said by someone before, someone at Stephen's level in this game does not choose the roles he is offered. He can always turn things down, but at this stage that can be career suicide.
Someone said this is what Stephens gets for 'craving' the spotlight. That's not correct. Yes, artistic criticism is indeed part of the game whenever you put yourself out there, however, personal attacks for human choices are not. Wanting to be an actor means you love the art of acting. It does not mean you will be successful. He is just starting off and y'all are trying to shredd his dignity and his being before he even gets started.
Now as for this femme dating butch crap that some of you say would never happen. You need to wake up. It's the femmes that are usually on the front lines of the gay (black AND white) liberation movement. It is usually the femmes that are VISIBLE!!! They get attcked by everyone, including the gay community, but if no one ever stands up to fight, but instead only works to 'blend in', who is left? This DL thing as a sexual practice is as old as the day long, but turning it into a whole culture that includes clothing styles, and making it important to seem to deny who you are in is new. This is a negative and dangerous trend. Black gays are taking this to the point of bashing (verbally/physically) openly gay black men. We are destroying our own community. We are forcing each other to conform, as well as denying our sexuality. You have to wear thugwear, be built a certain way, speak ebonics, and other things in order to be considered part of the black gay community. But I do know, thank God, a number of femme-butch couples, and they are not femmes who are 'playing butch' in order to have a butch man. These couples are made up of men who are very confident in their sexuality, and in who they are as human beings, whereas they don't have to put on any facades to be accepted in their relationships. It's one thing to be who you are (if you're naturally thuggish and grew up like that, it's fine), but to change your whole being in order to fit into a cultural construct..., ummm, no.

Derrick from Philly

Well, Bill, I wish I had waited a little longer before I posted one of my typical narcissistic comments (on the fem issue) this morning. I didn't need to post anything today. You said it all...on both topics ("out" black actors & the negative view of feminine gay males).

THanks.

Mikey--He Likes It

No one should ever feel pressured or rushed into coming out. I'm sure Darryl weighed all the pros and cons and made the decision in his own time/terms. I say good for him and wish him all the success. It was a brave choice indeed. The question is will he be limited to just playing in black gay movies, gay movies, or gay roles? I'm sure as an actor he would want to expand his acting chops and play a variety of parts and I hope he gets the opportunites to do that. As for Noah's Arc I don't think it's a prerequisite for the actors to need to come out. Just accepting and being a part of a groundbreaking series about black gay men is a statement in itself. This show was a first and a start and wasn't to be the be all and end all of black gay projects. I saw it as a launching pad for other projects to get developed. And why all the negative comments about less masculine men? These men have been and are a part of the gay community and deserve to be portrayed along with the more masculine types. There is room for both and they should both be embraced instead of this us vs them mentality.

Tyron

I'm somewhere between agreeing with Ryan and Bill.

It is very important for people to come out if and when they are ready. Hell, some people never do. But it is also just as important to recognition and applaud all those who do. Quite often black gay men are pressured not to be gay or not to come out. Or to fit a certain mold. So bravo to Darryl!

Now that is also to say that Ryan, ATL Kid, Anti Believer and some others make sense. When "Noah" was on the air, only Doug Spearman was out. However, the entire cast was lauded for being "brave" and "groundbreaking" and Rodney Chester (how you doinnnn?), Darryl and Christian Vincent went to all the clubs and pride evenst talking about "community". And speaking out against critics in the "community." Sorry, but you're not part of the community by PLAYING A CHARACTER. It was also a joke for several organizations to use Rodney as an emcee and host when he has not come out.

I applaud Darryl for coming and wish him the best of success. He is talented and gifted. But he should be very careful about calling people "hypocritical" when up until recently, he was telling "the community" what they needed to do. And his BFF Rodney Chester is doing the same and insisting he is not gay.

Tyron

I'm somewhere between agreeing with Ryan and Bill.

It is very important for people to come out if and when they are ready. Hell, some people never do. But it is also just as important to recognition and applaud all those who do. Quite often black gay men are pressured not to be gay or not to come out. Or to fit a certain mold. So bravo to Darryl!

Now that is also to say that Ryan, ATL Kid, Anti Believer and some others make sense. When "Noah" was on the air, only Doug Spearman was out. However, the entire cast was lauded for being "brave" and "groundbreaking" and Rodney Chester (how you doinnnn?), Darryl and Christian Vincent went to all the clubs and pride evenst talking about "community". And speaking out against critics in the "community." Sorry, but you're not part of the community by PLAYING A CHARACTER. It was also a joke for several organizations to use Rodney as an emcee and host when he has not come out.

I applaud Darryl for coming and wish him the best of success. He is talented and gifted. But he should be very careful about calling people "hypocritical" when up until recently, he was telling "the community" what they needed to do. And his BFF Rodney Chester is doing the same and insisting he is not gay.

Anti-believer

To Derrick:

WOW! You really don't know the difference.

GEEZ! what an ignorant person u r

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