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21 April 2011



I don't understand? So he didn't say anything hateful?



No. The imam has said plenty of hateful things about gays and others. The fact that he didnt say them in Germany was no reason why German authorities couldnt expel him.

Germany has a very strict definition of hate speech and will deport or expel anyone who has a history of inciting hatred or violence.


@Carlos - I don't know if it's hateful. It is hardline, even extreme. Dude is a serious extremist!

He thinks that adulterers should be put to death. He's anti - awholelotofstuff. He dayum sure is not pro-Gay.

This thing can be tricky. He has a reasonable tone of voice, but what he is saying is really, really extreme.


If someone says "You should be put to death because you are gay!!", how is that not hateful? Germany is very aware of how one person can incite violence towards many. This is not tricky at all to me. It all depends on the influence and stature of the speaker and his/her audience. Lynch mobs started with one person says "You should string him up 'cause he's black!!" When you are surrounded by people of like mind and have seen examples of how that mentality can go awry, it is better to err on the side of caution.

Derrick from Philly

Well, where are the progressive, civilized Germans going to deport him to? Isreal?


Am I the only one loving Germany even more for this? People seem to be taking a very subdued view on this, whereas I'm like, YES Germany! Kick his @ss out!

It's clear why some may take issue with preemptive punishment but I think it should be handled on a case by case basis. I'm sick of people preaching hate in the US, then years later after poisoning the minds of millions it's revealed that they are the most perverse and predatory of them all. At that point it's too late, the damage is done. Where I think the issue of overreach should be applied is common sense, does the act infringe on the rights of others (the way hate speech send mobs of Jamaicans on witch hunts)? If so, preemptive punishment may apply. I'd rather a country be proactive than let people run around with known potential for trouble-making. It's not like they jailed him for his beliefs, Germany just said get out, we don't want your hate speech. No big deal.

@ Derrick, he wasn't deported, he was expelled. He is free to go anywhere in the world that he chooses/will accept him, as long as he leaves Germany.


Even without Islam, Jamaica is still the most homophobic place on earth.

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